Awaken Your Purpose

The Quantum Energy Device That Changes Everything - Hunter Bjork
What if clean energy could be always on, decentralized, scalable, quiet, fuel-free, and available where people actually need it?
In this episode of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, Zenka Caro speaks with Hunter Bjork, founder, CEO, and chairman of ISA Energy, about the quantum energy technology his team has spent nearly a decade developing.
Hunter shares the story behind ISA, the purpose that carried him through ten years of experimentation, and the moment a business coach asked him a question he could not answer:
Can you tell me what your life’s purpose is in one sentence and make me believe it?
That question eventually led Hunter to define his purpose as helping secure humanity’s best probable future. From there, energy became the lever.
✦ Holomovement Purpose Lab ✦🔎 Search the archives: https://www.holomovement.net/purpose🧭 Take the quiz + find your stage: https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz📝 Found your purpose? Add your data + insights: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map📚 Browse the research, books, tools + resources: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose
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In this conversation, Hunter explains how ISA began with a blank sheet of paper and a simple question: What would an ideal energy source actually need to do?
The answer: be always on, decentralized, scalable, affordable, clean, and built from materials that can actually be manufactured.
Hunter describes ISA’s work with electromagnetic fields, toroidal fields, magnetic reactions, the quantum field, and the possibility of generating usable electrical power from energy that exists around us but is not normally visible or easy to measure.
He also shares how the company moved from stealth mode into public education after years of experiments, trial and error, blown circuits, independent validation, patents, and the long process of turning frontier physics into a usable product.
This episode is about energy technology, purpose as fuel, why purpose is stronger than passion or motivation, and why the things once called impossible may simply be waiting for the people willing to stay with them long enough.
✦ About Hunter Bjork ✦Hunter Bjork is the founder, CEO, and chairman of ISA Energy, PBC. ISA was founded in 2016 with a mission to develop technologies that help secure humanity’s best probable future.
Through ISA, Hunter and his team are working to commercialize energy technology designed for homes, communities, municipalities, and larger infrastructure.
✦ Guest Links ✦🌐 ISA Energy: https://www.isaenergy.com
✦ Interviewer & Host ✦Zenka Caro is the founder of LightNet and the Holomovement Purpose Lab.
🌐 LightNet: https://www.lightnet.org/
✦ Time Codes ✦00:00 A business meeting in a graveyard00:13 The question that changed Hunter’s life01:02 Founding ISA to solve the world energy problem01:21 Building a quantum energy system02:05 Awaken Your Purpose introduction02:42 Meet Hunter Bjork and ISA Energy04:38 Coming out of stealth mode06:23 The mentor who asked the real question07:45 Can you say your purpose in one sentence?08:32 Securing humanity’s best probable future09:23 Why energy became the mission11:19 Starting with a blank sheet of paper12:25 Why clean energy has been hard to scale13:14 Inverting the energy equation14:03 What the ideal energy source would need16:00 The quantum field and dark energy17:25 Ten years of trial and error17:39 Harnessing energy at the quantum level18:34 A generator without fuel, noise, or moving parts19:24 Energy independence in a box20:13 Homes, communities, and data centers22:54 What is the quantum field?24:46 The missing energy of the universe26:25 Dimensions as “buckets” of space27:49 Toroidal fields and magnetic reactions28:12 A “desktop black hole” magnetic analogy32:19 The deathbed exercise for finding purpose34:37 Why purpose beats passion and motivation37:25 It is okay not to know your purpose yet37:48 True success is progress on purpose39:33 Building on the frontier41:54 Why education is part of the mission44:04 Shedding limiting beliefs46:35 The ripple effect of doing the impossible49:44 What if more people lived their purpose?54:15 Hunter’s final message55:33 Purpose Lab closing reflection
✦ Connect & Support ✦
Thank you for joining us today. Our goal is to help you gather the courage to identify your passion and live your purpose for the sake of yourself and for the sake of us all.
The Awaken Your Purpose Podcast is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet. Through a multi-year research project and more than 100 interviews, we are mapping the patterns and methods that help people discover and live their purpose.
🎙️ Listen to the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast:🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/awaken-your-purpose/id1746656881🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1MfzpoYO4V0CvcohVNIhg4

Jason Sander | Land Steward, Community Architect, Educator, and Founder of Project Nomad
What if your why could change the room?
In this episode of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, Zenka Caro speaks with Jason Sander, a teacher, land steward, community architect, and new Sedona resident whose work focuses on creating spaces where people feel safe, present, connected, and free to make mistakes.
Jason shares how his early years as a teacher helped him understand that purpose is not only about what we do. It is about why we do it. Whether in a classroom, a café, a campground, a community project, or a conversation, Jason believes the intention behind the space changes what becomes possible inside it.
✦ Holomovement Purpose Lab ✦🔎 Search the archives: https://www.holomovement.net/purpose🧭 Take the quiz + find your stage: https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz📝 Found your purpose? Add your data + insights: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map📚 Browse the research, books, tools + resources: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose
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In this conversation, Jason explores purpose-driven doing, the power of asking “why,” and why we should not get stuck building the final outcome before taking the natural next step.
He shares lessons from teaching, experiential learning, land stewardship, hospitality, and his former project Nomad Cafe and Campground in Kanab, Utah. For Jason, spaces are never just spaces. They are conditions for presence, connection, learning, healing, and community.
Jason also speaks about Project Nomad, his emerging work in Sedona to connect people already doing good work, build community from the bottom up, and create conscious events rooted in collaboration rather than competition.
This episode is about purpose, presence, community, safe spaces, land stewardship, collaboration, and the simple but radical practice of knowing why you are in the room.
✦ About Jason Sander ✦Jason Sander is a land steward, community architect, educator, and founder of Project Nomad. His work focuses on cultivating spaces where people feel seen, heard, safe, and present enough to connect.
Through education, hospitality, land-based projects, and community building, Jason helps create environments where people can share their gifts, collaborate, and bring more life into the room.
✦ Guest Links ✦Project Nomad links coming soon.
✦ Interviewer & Host ✦Zenka Caro is the founder of LightNet and the Holomovement Purpose Lab. Her work explores how people move from uncertainty into purpose, courage, creative expression, and meaningful action.
🌐 LightNet: https://www.lightnet.org/
✦ Time Codes ✦00:00 Why are you doing it?00:38 Awaken Your Purpose introduction01:11 Meet Jason Sander01:28 Purpose as creating spaces for change02:48 Safe spaces where learning can happen04:17 Asking students, “Why are you here?”05:23 Intrinsic purpose vs. someone else’s why07:01 Build the next step, not the final outcome08:16 Everything you need is already here08:51 Don’t get stuck on the couch10:15 Purpose as embodied knowing10:47 Jason’s mission statement11:50 The challenge of staying connected to purpose13:57 What we leave in people14:50 Purpose gives direction, action gives it form15:27 What it means to be a nomad16:20 Purpose-driven spaces create connection17:21 Why coffee tastes better on vacation18:07 Creating presence through place18:41 Cultivating conditions for growth20:15 A world where people live their purpose21:22 Purpose as a light in the chest22:12 Make every conversation an invitation23:33 Peace as a baseline24:09 When peace is now, not later26:17 Project Nomad and conscious community27:22 Building networks from the bottom up28:01 Purpose Lab closing reflection
✦ Connect & Support ✦
Thank you for joining us today. Our goal is to help you gather the courage to identify your passion and live your purpose for the sake of yourself and for the sake of us all.
The Awaken Your Purpose Podcast is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet. Through a multi-year research project and more than 100 interviews, we are mapping the patterns, stages, and methods that help people discover and live their purpose.
🎙️ Listen to the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast:🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/awaken-your-purpose/id1746656881🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1MfzpoYO4V0CvcohVNIhg4

Frank White | Author of The Overview Effect and Space Philosopher
What if we stopped seeing ourselves as passengers—and remembered that we are all crew members of Spaceship Earth?
Frank White coined the term “the Overview Effect” to describe the profound shift in awareness astronauts often experience when they see Earth from space: one interconnected living system without visible borders or boundaries.
In this episode, interviewed by Yasmine El Baggari, Frank shares the moment that inspired his groundbreaking work, what he learned from interviewing astronauts, and why it took decades for his vision to reach a worldwide audience.
Together, they explore purpose, persistence, borders, environmental responsibility, space travel, and the expanded perspective humanity may need to address our greatest challenges. Frank also shares the movement to send him to space—and why living your purpose may inspire others to discover their own.
We are not passengers on this planet. We are crew members—and every crew member has a role.
EXPLORE YOUR PURPOSE
Explore the Purpose Lab:https://www.ourlightnet.org/purpose
Take the Purpose Quiz:https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz
Explore our living research:https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map
ABOUT FRANK WHITE
Frank White is an author and space philosopher whose landmark book, The Overview Effect: Space Exploration and Human Evolution, introduced the term “Overview Effect” in 1987. He has authored or coauthored numerous books exploring space, climate change, artificial intelligence, and humanity’s future. His work inspired the short film Overview and has helped bring astronauts’ experiences of Earth as one interconnected system to millions of people.
CONNECT WITH FRANK
Website:https://frankwhiteauthor.com/
LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankwhitetoe
Instagram:@frankwhite161
ABOUT THE INTERVIEWER
Yasmine El Baggari is the Moroccan-born founder and CEO of Voyaj, a global platform created to foster understanding and peace through meaningful one-on-one exchanges. After traveling to more than 40 countries, visiting all 50 U.S. states, and being welcomed into more than 200 homes, she made it her mission to bring greater openness, curiosity, and empathy into the world.
CONNECT WITH YASMINE
Website:https://www.voyaj.com/
Instagram:@yelbaggari
Facebook:@yasmineelbaggari
TIME CODES
00:00 — The Overview Effect and Spaceship Earth02:26 — Yasmine welcomes Frank White04:02 — Frank’s search for purpose05:14 — The flight that sparked the Overview Effect07:17 — Interviewing astronauts10:23 — When purpose does not unfold as planned13:09 — Apollo 8, Earthrise, and paying attention15:11 — Surface thinking, borders, and barriers17:21 — The people who supported Frank’s vision19:26 — What astronauts want humanity to understand22:04 — Why explore space when Earth needs help?29:07 — The encouragement that kept Frank going32:19 — How the Overview Effect finally reached millions34:03 — Faith, doubt, and the greatest challenge of purpose36:10 — The campaign to send Frank White to space41:27 — Balloons, rockets, and different paths to the Overview Effect45:17 — What happens when someone lives their purpose?47:28 — What if everyone knew their purpose?48:57 — We are all crew members of Spaceship Earth
CONNECT & SUPPORT
Subscribe, like, and share this episode with someone ready to see the world—and their purpose—from a new perspective.
Awaken Your Purpose is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet, built from multi-year research and more than 100 conversations with people living and breathing their purpose.
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Sara Roccisano | Author, Speaker, World Traveler, and Founder of Embolden Adventures
Sara left a 20+ year career in Wall Street and corporate America to follow a path of purpose, courage, travel, writing, and spiritual awakening.
In this episode of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, Sharon Clark speaks with Sara Roccisano about the moment a breaking point in her Manhattan apartment became the beginning of an entirely new life.
Without a perfect plan, Sara sold her apartment, walked away from the career that looked impressive on paper, and began writing the book that would become part of her larger Embolden Adventures series.
✦ Holomovement Purpose Lab ✦
Search the archives:https://www.holomovement.net/purpose
Take the quiz + find your stage:https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz
Found your purpose? Add your data + insights:https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map
Browse the research, books, tools + resources:https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose
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In this conversation, Sara speaks about burnout, surrender, leaving New York City, returning to nature, and learning to stop asking the outside world for permission.
Her work through Embolden Adventures is for the seeker who knows something has to change and is ready to rise after the breakdown. Sara’s upcoming book, Stone Temple Passport: Awake and Radiate with Mama Ayahuasca, begins a larger series exploring surrender, adventure, healing, and personal awakening.
At the heart of this episode is a simple but fierce message: you have to want your life back. No one else can choose it for you.
Sara talks about listening to the inner voice, trusting higher power, working with plant medicine, grounding in nature, and learning to see life as a hero’s journey. She also shares why living your purpose can ripple outward simply by standing in your truth.
This episode is about courage, self-trust, travel, surrender, spiritual awakening, and choosing yourself before life forces the choice for you.
✦ About Sara Roccisano ✦
Sara Roccisano is an author, speaker, world traveler, and founder of Embolden Adventures, a platform created to encourage personal, professional, and spiritual growth through story, adventure, and courageous self-discovery.
After more than two decades in Wall Street and corporate America, Sara walked away from the life that no longer fit and began writing, traveling, healing, and helping others take the bet on themselves.
✦ Guest Links ✦
New Book: https://emboldenadventures.com/bookWebsite:https://www.emboldenadventures.com
Instagram:https://instagram.com/EmboldenAdventures
Sara Roccisano:https://sararoccisano.com
✦ Interviewer ✦
Sharon Clark is a cancer life coach, purpose guide, and LightNet contributor devoted to helping people navigate life’s threshold moments with courage, clarity, and heart.
Sharon Clark:https://www.yourtransformationcoach.ca/
✦ Time Codes ✦
00:00 Purpose is discovered over time01:13 Meet Sharon Clark and Sara Roccisano02:15 Sara’s purpose as a way shower and world traveler03:20 Life is lived forward, understood backward03:57 The 2022 breaking point in Manhattan04:18 Quitting without a plan05:17 Discovering herself through letting go06:10 Leaving Wall Street and corporate pressure07:34 Family support and coming home08:08 Walking a spiritual path others may not understand09:27 The boiling point from 2020 to 202210:43 Work stress, heartbreak, shutdowns, and city noise11:29 The conference call that broke the camel’s back12:38 “I quit. I’m choosing me.”13:59 Stop seeking outside permission14:47 Following the calling against the grain15:32 The challenge of surrender and trust16:17 Meeting her higher power17:05 Higher power with binoculars and a walkie-talkie18:23 Nature, plant medicine, and subtle guidance20:01 You have to want your purpose21:17 Holding your light22:59 A world where people stop wearing masks24:00 Purpose Lab closing reflection
✦ Connect & Support ✦
Thank you for joining us today. Our goal is to help you gather the courage to identify your passion and live your purpose for the sake of yourself and for the sake of us all.
The Awaken Your Purpose Podcast is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet. Through a multi-year research project and more than 100 interviews, we are mapping the patterns, stages, and methods that help people discover and live their purpose.
Listen to the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast:
Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/awaken-your-purpose/id1746656881
Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1MfzpoYO4V0CvcohVNIhg4

Jerome Martin | Metaphysical Practitioner, and Founder of Light Body Bootcamp, ET Contactee
What if the light body is not a metaphor, but a real part of who we are?
In this episode of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, Sharon Clark speaks with Jerome Martin III, an ET contactee, metaphysical practitioner, and founder of Light Body Bootcamp.
Jerome shares how a series of extraterrestrial contact experiences changed the direction of his life, taking him from construction work into the development of a training system for consciousness. Through these experiences, Jerome says he learned practical methods for strengthening the light body, deepening higher self connection, cultivating intuitive abilities, and helping others access expanded states of awareness.
✦ Holomovement Purpose Lab ✦🔎 Search the archives: https://www.holomovement.net/purpose🧭 Take the quiz + find your stage: https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz📝 Found your purpose? Add your data + insights: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map📚 Browse the research, books, tools + resources: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose
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In this conversation, Jerome describes early contact experiences, including seeing blue silhouettes of light, traveling through a tube of light, and later understanding these encounters as training in light body development, telepathic communication, and higher-dimensional awareness.
He also shares how his purpose unfolded in phases. What began as one-on-one training became Light Body Bootcamp, a community and system designed to help people strengthen their light body, connect with their higher self, and activate intuitive faculties that Jerome believes are already built into human nature.
Jerome also discusses altered states of consciousness, brainwave shifts, ET contact, psychic abilities, the body as a doorway, and the difference between intuition and higher self guidance. His central message is that humans are more capable than we have been taught to believe.
This episode is about consciousness training, spiritual evolution, purpose, contact, inner guidance, and learning to trust the abilities that may have been waiting inside you all along.
✦ About Jerome Martin ✦Jerome Martin is an ET contactee, metaphysical practitioner, and founder of Light Body Bootcamp. Through classes, workshops, and online training, he guides people through practical methods for strengthening the light body, deepening higher self connection, cultivating intuitive abilities, and supporting conscious evolution.
His work explores the light body as a real energetic faculty, not a symbol, and offers practices for accessing altered states, building intuitive capacity, and connecting with higher levels of consciousness.
✦ Guest Links ✦🌐 Light Body Blueprint: https://lightbodyblueprint.com
✦ Interviewer ✦Sharon Clark is a cancer life coach, purpose guide, and LightNet contributor devoted to helping people navigate life’s threshold moments with courage, clarity, and heart.
🌐 Sharon Clark: https://www.yourtransformationcoach.ca/
✦ Time Codes ✦00:00 The light body as applied metaphysical science00:41 Awaken Your Purpose Podcast introduction01:01 Meet Sharon Clark and Jerome Martin01:54 Jerome’s purpose: developing the light body02:35 ET contact and the beginning of his training03:38 Five blue beings and the tube of light04:28 Learning telepathic communication05:15 Early contact experiences05:50 Missing time in New Mexico06:50 A UFO tour in Sedona08:08 The moment that could not be explained away09:09 From dream state to conscious contact10:15 The mission to help humanity awaken11:02 Disclosure happening one person at a time12:16 Applied metaphysical science12:36 Humans are built with these abilities13:22 How family reacted to Jerome’s new path13:55 From construction work to an online business15:32 Discovery Channel and brainwave testing17:18 EEG testing during contact20:13 Brainwaves, theta, and altered states21:58 Learning to access psychic abilities on command23:16 Why television is called programming24:12 Humans are psychic by nature25:24 Trusting his guides when others doubted him27:16 Fear, curiosity, and contact through the heart28:16 Challenges of living his purpose29:04 Navigating life after contact30:12 Human emotions and grounding the experience31:13 Why spiritual gifts do not bypass being human31:56 Humans as a bridge between realms33:45 Helping others bring abilities online35:18 Abilities as tools for purpose35:36 Trust your gut and connect to your higher self36:51 Your higher self is the compass37:43 Stop relying only on external programming38:32 A world with more purpose, love, and unity39:57 Purpose Lab closing reflection
✦ Connect & Support ✦
Thank you for joining us today. Our goal is to help you gather the courage to identify your passion and live your purpose for the sake of yourself and for the sake of us all.
The Awaken Your Purpose Podcast is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet. Through a multi-year research project and more than 100 interviews, we are mapping the patterns, stages, and methods that help people discover and live their purpose.
🎙️ Listen to the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast:🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/awaken-your-purpose/id1746656881🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1MfzpoYO4V0CvcohVNIhg4

Gisele Bonenfant | Healer, Archivist, and Keeper of the Patrick Flanagan Library
What if the future has already been invented, but is sitting quietly in boxes, books, and forgotten archives?
In this episode of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, Zenka Caro speaks with Gisele Bonenfant, a Sedona-based practitioner, archivist, and guardian of the Patrick Flanagan Library.
Gisele shares her extraordinary journey from working in a Boston law firm to becoming the caretaker of rare books, future-facing scientific ideas, and a powerful Vogel crystal photonic healing technology known as the Crystal Photonic Triangulation Unit. Her story is a living breadcrumb trail of intuition, humor, service, and saying yes when every cell in the body lights up.
✦ Holomovement Purpose Lab ✦🔎 Search the archives: https://www.holomovement.net/purpose🧭 Take the quiz + find your stage: https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz📝 Found your purpose? Add your data + insights: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map📚 Browse the research, books, tools + resources: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose
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In this conversation, Gisele speaks about her role as archivist for the Patrick Flanagan Library, a collection connected to the life and work of inventor, scientist, and futurist Patrick Flanagan. She describes the library as a kind of vortex where researchers, inventors, and seekers encounter ideas that may have been decades ahead of their time.
She also shares her vision for preserving and expanding access to these materials, including the dream of scanning rare books and documents so that the knowledge does not remain hidden in Sedona, but can reach people around the world.
Gisele also introduces the Crystal Laser Bed, a rare Vogel crystal photonic triangulation unit that works with crystal, color, light, and sound. She describes it as a 21st-century version of ancient healing technologies that once used crystalline caves, sunlight, moonlight, minerals, and sound for restoration and alignment.
At the heart of this episode is a deeper question: How do we know when something is truly ours to follow?
For Gisele, the answer lives in the body. When the cells light up, when the heart knows, when the inner GPS says yes even before the mind understands, that is the breadcrumb.
This episode is about future science, sacred archives, the body’s intelligence, Patrick Flanagan, Sedona, humor, courage, and the strange beauty of following the path that makes no logical sense until it becomes your life.
✦ About Gisele Bonenfant ✦Gisele Bonenfant is a Sedona-based archivist, practitioner, and caretaker of the Patrick Flanagan Library. A lifelong lover of books and research, she began by cataloging thousands of Patrick Flanagan’s books and helped bring the library into public form so the knowledge could be shared rather than returned to boxes.
She is also a practitioner of the Crystal Laser Bed, a rare Vogel crystal photonic technology that works with crystal, color, light, sound, intuition, and the body’s subtle intelligence. Her work lives at the meeting point of spirituality, science, humor, energetic healing, and the preservation of knowledge that may help shape the future.
✦ Guest Links ✦🌐 Patrick Flanagan Library: https://patrickflanaganlibrary.com💎 Crystal Laser Bed: crystallaserbed@gmail.com
✦ Interviewer & Host ✦Zenka Caro is the founder of LightNet and the Holomovement Purpose Lab. Her work explores how people move from uncertainty into purpose, courage, creative expression, and meaningful action.
🌐 LightNet: https://www.lightnet.org/
✦ Time Codes ✦00:00 When every cell says yes00:25 Awaken Your Purpose Podcast introduction00:44 Meet Gisele Bonenfant01:21 Sedona, consciousness researchers, and future science01:56 The Vogel crystal photonic triangulation unit02:33 The Patrick Flanagan Library and why it matters03:07 Welcome to the conversation04:11 Becoming the archivist of Patrick Flanagan’s books05:21 From book inventory to public library06:10 Why old books may hold future breakthroughs07:43 The dream of scanning and sharing the archive08:17 Rebuilding the Library of Alexandria, bit by bit09:51 Sedona’s private libraries and hidden knowledge10:52 Gisele’s work with scientists, spirituality, and technology11:53 Gisele’s purpose as humor, light, and service13:19 What the Crystal Laser Bed is14:16 Marcel Vogel, crystals, and sacred geometry15:06 How the bed works with light, color, and crystal16:02 Crystal, sound, and ancient healing technologies17:25 Being surrounded by brilliant minds18:20 Why true Vogel crystals are so rare19:10 How the Crystal Laser Bed came into Gisele’s life22:17 When every cell in the body says yes24:35 Fear, cellular memory, and learning to trust the bed25:57 Shamanic training and following the next breadcrumb27:26 Leaving the law firm and entering the unknown29:15 The body’s yes and the challenge that follows30:40 Who Patrick Flanagan was33:09 The Neurophone, brain coherence, and learning35:00 Pyramid Power, water, and future science38:30 The courage to live your purpose39:04 Why the path can feel lonely40:45 Finding the other misfit toys43:15 Advice for listening to your inner GPS45:50 The body, the heart, and deeper knowing47:01 Creating from the heart instead of the head49:44 The impact of living authentically52:58 “Nowhere” as “now here”53:36 Make-believe as a creative force55:35 What the world would look like if more people lived their purpose57:35 Follow the breadcrumbs and focus on the good59:52 How to find Gisele and the Patrick Flanagan Library01:00:47 Closing reflections01:01:20 Purpose Lab closing reflection
✦ Connect & Support ✦
Thank you for joining us today. Our goal is to help you gather the courage to identify your passion and live your purpose for the sake of yourself and for the sake of us all.
The Awaken Your Purpose Podcast is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet. Through a multi-year research project and more than 100 interviews, we are mapping the patterns, stages, and methods that help people discover and live their purpose.
🎙️ Listen to the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast:🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/awaken-your-purpose/id1746656881🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1MfzpoYO4V0CvcohVNIhg4

Melissa Jolly Graves | Environmental Scientist, Telepathic Communicator, Consciousness Researcher, and Founder of Euphoric Source What if beyond-verbal autistic children are not waiting for us to teach them, but are here to teach us? In this episode of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, Zenka Caro speaks with Melissa Jolly Graves, a consciousness researcher, telepathic communicator, spiritual ambassador, environmental advocate and founder of Euphoric Source. Graves explores the places where science, spirituality, nature & human consciousness collide. She shares her work communicating with beyond-verbal autistic children, collaborating with water researchers and developing an experimental mushroom-based approach designed to remove oil from water. This conversation questions almost everything we assume about intelligence, communication and healing. What if water carries information? What if nature already holds technologies we have not learned to understand? What if the children we once believed could not communicate are offering insights that scientists need to hear? Graves shares her scientific research with fungi and crystals that eat oil in water. And she does not stop there. She is bringing through music with the beyond verbal autistic communities. As @Rebbel Prophet on TikTok, she even seriously challenges our serious spiritual mania over crystals.
 
✦ Holomovement Purpose Lab ✦
Purpose is not something reserved for the lucky few. Through more than two years of research and over 100 interviews, the Holomovement Purpose Lab has identified patterns, tools and a seven-stage process that can help people move from searching to living their purpose.
✦ Enter the Lab ✦
📚 Browse the research, books, tools + resources:https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose
🔎 Search the Awaken Your Purpose archives:https://www.holomovement.net/awakenyourpurposepodcast
🧭 Take the quiz + discover your purpose stage:https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz
🧪 Found your purpose? Add your experience to the research:https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map
✦ About Our Guest ✦
Melissa Jolly Graves is a Spiritual Ambassador, consciousness researcher, telepathic communicator, faith healer, documentarian, speaker, minister and podcast host.
After beginning her professional life as a Licensed Practical Nurse, Melissa trained in more than 24 healing modalities and founded Euphoric Source, a healing sanctuary and experimental research center exploring consciousness, biology, emotion, energy and human potential.
She is the creator and host of Let’s Bee Telepathy, where she explores communication beyond spoken language with beyond-verbal communicators, families, educators and researchers.
Melissa is also developing Mycovescroleum, an experimental environmental restoration project investigating how fungi may assist with oil and water remediation.
✦ Guest Links ✦
Euphoric Source:https://www.euphoricsource.com
About Melissa:https://www.euphoricsource.com/about-5
✦ Interviewer & Host ✦
Zenka Caro is the founder of LightNet and the Holomovement Purpose Lab. Her work explores how people move beyond perceived limitations, identify their purpose and make the impossible possible.
✦Host Links ✦
Zenka Carohttps://www.zenka.org
LightNethttps://www.zenka.org
✦ Time Codes ✦
00:00 The spiritual cost of mining crystals00:56 Welcome to Awaken Your Purpose01:14 Building laboratories, healing centers and schools02:26 Beyond-verbal children as teachers03:21 Scientists begin listening differently04:25 A song created through telepathic communication07:19 Learning to move forward by listening09:16 The water-remediation invention10:16 The mushroom designed to eat oil11:18 Turning captured oil into crystal12:01 Why the safety testing takes seven years14:26 The moment Melissa decided to become herself15:45 Bringing her intuitive abilities into nursing18:55 The greatest struggle she faced19:16 The danger of incomplete spiritual and scientific stories20:42 Does your healing crystal want to go home?24:27 Finding purpose through anger and passion26:12 Why most of what we worry about does not matter27:21 Turning problems into building blocks28:48 Gratitude, worth and finding your purpose29:16 What if your career is simply living?30:24 Giving others permission to be themselves32:11 A world where more people live their purpose33:57 You are the impossible35:17 Closing and Purpose Lab research
✦ Connect & Support ✦
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Thank you for joining us today. It is our goal to give you the courage to begin identifying your passion and living your purpose, for the sake of yourself and for the sake of us all.
Over the course of this multi-year collaboration and research project, we have identified patterns and a seven-stage process that many people move through on their way to living their purpose.
Awaken Your Purpose is a collaboration between the Holomovement, LightNet and incredible people like you.

Jill Robinson | Editor, Journalist - Holomovement
Most people think purpose is something you find once you have the perfect plan.
 
Jill Robinson’s story says something sharper: sometimes your purpose is the thing you keep circling back to, even when the safe path looks more acceptable.
 
In this episode of Awaken Your Purpose, Jill Robinson, writer and journalist for the Holomovement, shares how writing became the thread running through her life. From childhood journals and stories, to leaving her college degree in elementary education for journalism.
 
We talk about why stories stick more than statistics, why the “wrong” path may still teach you what you need, and why the world may need more artists, writers, singers, painters, and places where people can gather again.
 
This is a conversation about purpose, story, courage, creativity, and the kind of life that keeps calling you back.
✦ Holomovement Purpose Lab Starting in September ✦ Browse the research, books, tools + resources: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose Search the archives: https://www.holomovement.net/awakenyourpurposepodcast Take the quiz + find your stage: https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz Found your purpose? Add your data + insights: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map
✦ About Our Guest Jill Robinson ✦Jill Robinson is a writer, journalist, and storyteller for the Holomovement. She helps gather and share stories that reveal the good work already happening in the world and remind us what becomes possible when people connect through purpose.
Jill has helped weave together the co-edited anthology Holomovement: Embracing Our Collective Purpose to Unite Humanity and the Holomovement Effect magazine. https://www.holomovement.net/media Her work brings consciousness out of abstraction and into the heart through human stories, art, nature, curiosity, and the written word.
At the center of Jill’s purpose is a simple but powerful practice: slowing down, paying attention, and helping people inspire the world.
✦ Guest Links ✦
Jill Robinson on SubStack:
https://staringoutwindows.substack.com
 
Holomovement: Embracing Our Collective Purpose to Unite Humanity Book and Holomovement Effect Magazine: 
https://www.holomovement.net/media
✦ Interviewer & Host ✦
Zenka Caro is the founder of LightNet and the Holomovement Purpose Lab. Her purpose is to make the impossible possible.
LightNet: https://www.lightnet.org/ or Zenka Caro https://www.zenkacaro.com
Timestamps:
00:00 — What the world could look like if more people lived their purpose
00:55 — Welcome to Awaken Your Purpose
01:07 — Meet Jill Robinson
02:05 — Jill’s purpose: telling stories of good work in the world
03:02 — Why stories stay with us more than statistics
04:06 — The childhood seed: journals, diaries, and her mother’s writing
05:43 — “Every story doesn’t have to begin with once upon a time”
07:20 — Choosing the safe road, then leaving it
08:16 — Walking across campus into journalism
09:03 — The lost years, travel, bartending, and money fear
10:09 — Getting back to writing by making her own clips
12:06 — Why so many people don’t know their purpose
13:44 — Purpose as something you awaken, not something you hunt for
15:44 — Why the “wrong” path may still matter
17:16 — Advice for people who haven’t found what they love yet
19:01 — How listening to people’s stories changes them
21:12 — Everyone has a story worth hearing
22:15 — A slower, gentler, more creative world
23:25 — AI, artists, print, cafes, and third spaces
24:56 — Gratitude for Jill’s role in the community
25:37 — Closing message and resources
 
✦ Connect & Support ✦
Thank you for joining us today. Our goal is to help you gather the courage to identify your passion and live your purpose for the sake of yourself and for the sake of us all.
The Awaken Your Purpose Podcast is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet. Through a multi-year research project and more than 100 interviews, we are mapping the patterns, stages, and methods that help people discover and live their purpose.
Listen to the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/awaken-your-purpose/id1746656881 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1MfzpoYO4V0CvcohVNIhg4
 
 
 

Cristiana Rocha | Guide, Energy Practitioner, and Keeper of the Sacred VoidInterviewed by Sharon Clark for the Holomovement Purpose Lab
What if your purpose begins when you stop running from emptiness?
In this episode of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, Sharon Clark speaks with Cristiana Rocha about presence, loss, source, and the mysterious doorway that opens when we become intimate with the void.
Cristiana shares that she was never really looking for her purpose. For her, the highest purpose is to be here, to live this life fully, and to experience the gift of existence with presence. Instead of treating confusion, emptiness, or feeling lost as problems to escape, she began to see them as sacred openings into something deeper.
✦ Holomovement Purpose Lab ✦🔎 Search the archives: https://www.holomovement.net/purpose🧭 Take the quiz + find your stage: https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz📝 Found your purpose? Add your data + insights: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map📚 Browse the research, books, tools + resources: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose
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In this conversation, Cristiana explores what it means to become present to what is alive in the moment, even when what is alive feels like grief, uncertainty, loss, or the unknown. She speaks about becoming intimate with the void: the space before words, before purpose, before form.
For Cristiana, this void is not empty. It is origin. Womb. Source. A place where something deeper can begin to speak.
She also shares a deeply personal experience connected to reconnecting with her axial tonal lines, the energetic grid of the body, the Earth, and planetary life force. This moment changed something within her and became part of how she now understands purpose, embodiment, and the collective field.
This is a short but potent conversation about surrender, mystery, presence, and the sacred intelligence that can emerge when life removes what we thought we needed.
✦ About Cristiana Rocha ✦Cristiana Rocha is a guide and energy practitioner whose work explores presence, embodiment, energetic alignment, and the deeper intelligence that lives beneath language. Her reflections invite us to stop treating emptiness as failure and begin listening to it as a doorway.
Through her work, Cristiana helps open space for people to reconnect with the body, the Earth, and the source field that exists before words, before identity, and before the mind tries to name our purpose.🌐 Cristiana Rocha : https://www.instagram.com/cristiana_rocha_me_be_we/
✦ Interviewer ✦Sharon Clark is a cancer life coach, purpose guide, and LightNet contributor devoted to helping people navigate life’s threshold moments with courage, clarity, and heart. Through her interviews for the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, Sharon creates space for honest conversations about healing, purpose, and the deeper intelligence that can emerge through challenge.
🌐 Sharon Clark: https://www.yourtransformationcoach.ca/
✦ Time Codes ✦00:00 Purpose as being fully here00:40 Emptiness, confusion, and feeling lost01:10 Exploring the deeper truth beneath the void01:36 Becoming intimate with what is alive now01:50 The space before words, purpose, and form02:10 The void as womb, origin, and source02:30 How loss opens a deeper exploration03:00 A personal moment that changed everything03:35 Axial tonal lines, Earth grid, and planetary life force04:14 Purpose Lab closing reflection
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Thank you for joining us today. Our goal is to help you gather the courage to identify your passion and live your purpose for the sake of yourself and for the sake of us all.
The Awaken Your Purpose Podcast is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet. Through a multi-year research project and 100+ interviews, we are mapping the patterns, stages, and methods that help people discover and live their purpose.
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🎙️ Listen to the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast:🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/awaken-your-purpose/id1746656881🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1MfzpoYO4V0CvcohVNIhg4

James Bolden | Founder of Iris Cocreative, Creative Process Facilitator & Conscious Design Strategist
What if your mind is not telling you the truth, but protecting the version of reality you have already outgrown?
In this episode of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, Zenka Caro sits down with James Bolden, founder of Iris Cocreative, a creative process facilitator working with conscious businesses, purpose-driven organizations, and emerging communities around the world.
James lives in the fertile in-between: design, philosophy, technology, evolution, consciousness, creativity, architecture, village building, flow, and intersubjective awareness. His work is about creating tools, systems, and design solutions that help communities see themselves, find each other, and build what wants to emerge.
This conversation moves from conscious technology and community mapping into something much deeper: identity, death, time, purpose, and liberation. James shares how a near-death experience in 2012 changed his relationship with time, surrender, and what it means to be available to something larger than the self.
Together, Zenka and James explore the mind’s strange little monarchy: how limiting narratives, inertia, and identity can masquerade as truth. They also explore the “we-space,” the intelligence between people, and what becomes possible when technology stops performing and starts serving connection.
✦ Holomovement Purpose Lab ✦
Stop guessing what you’re here to do.
The Holomovement Purpose Lab turns 100+ Awaken Your Purpose interviews into a 7-stage map for discovering and living your purpose. Through research, reflection, Teams of 8-12, and real human practice, it helps people move from “What am I here to do?” into courage, clarity, and aligned action.
🧭 Take the quiz + find your purpose path: https://www.ourlightnet.org/purposequiz
🌐 Learn more about Purpose Lab: https://www.ourlightnet.org/purpose
🔎 Search the archives: https://www.holomovement.net/awakenyourpurposepodcast
✦ About our Guest James Bolden ✦
James Bolden facilitates creative processes for conscious businesses and purpose-driven organizations. He loves operating in the interstitium between design, philosophy, technology, evolution, consciousness, creativity, architecture, village building, flow, and intersubjective awareness.
His company, Iris Cocreative, exists to create tools and design solutions for emerging communities around the world. James is also part of the creative force behind Hollows, the Holomovement’s emerging community platform, designed to help people connect through values, needs, offerings, location, and shared purpose.
✦ Guest Links ✦
James Bolden: https://james.today
Iris Cocreative: https://www.iriscocreative.com
Hollows: https://hollows.holomovement.net
✦ Interviewer & Host ✦
Zenka Caro is the founder of LightNet, host of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, and creator of the Holomovement Purpose Lab. Her work explores consciousness, purpose, human potential, future culture, and what happens when people stop waiting for permission to live what they came here to do.
✦ Time Codes ✦
00:00 – Technology That Gets Out of the Way
01:01 – Welcome James Bolden
02:11 – Designing Beyond the Box
03:05 – The Hollows Matchmaking System
05:55 – Why Iris Cocreative Exists
06:25 – Intuitive, Relational & Intersubjective Design
08:45 – James’s Early Work & Consciousness Communities
10:26 – What Is James’s Purpose?
10:58 – Liberation From Limiting Narratives
12:28 – Why Death Is Alive in James’s Inquiry
15:40 – Surrender, No Time & the Eternal
17:23 – James’s Near-Death Experience
18:33 – Falling From the Swing
22:01 – Time Completely Slows and Stops
23:20 – Why Worry Fell Away
24:20 – Returning to the Body
29:44 – The Struggle of Living a Purposeful Life
33:27 – Advice for People Just Starting Out
35:56 – Giving Yourself Permission to Be Who You Are
38:17 – What If Most People Lived Their Purpose?
41:34 – Hollows, Purpose Lab & the Future of Community
44:35 – James.today and Closing Reflections
✦ Connect & Support ✦
Thank you for joining us today. The Awaken Your Purpose Podcast is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet, emerging from multi-year research and 100+ interviews on purpose, consciousness, healing, and human potential.
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