Awaken Your Purpose

✦ Holomovement Purpose Lab ✦What if the most radical thing you could do is refuse to be defined by your age, your losses, or anyone else's judgment? 
In this episode of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, Zenka Caro sits down with Marina Fini — immersive experiential artist, color healer, DJ, jewelry designer, and founder of Rainbow Bath House — for a conversation that swings between glitter parties and grief, between blue aliens and burned-down warehouses. 
Marina opens up about the rave at 17 that rewired her nervous system, the fashion-and-film-industry rejection that made her suppress her true self for over a decade, and the moment her beloved warehouse installation dissolved right in front of her — financially and spiritually. She talks candidly about sobriety, trauma loops, and how she used to disassociate because she didn't feel safe in her own body. Then she shows exactly how she rebuilt: through Kriya Yoga, mantra, color therapy, and two alter-ego "higher self" characters — Alienatrix and Cyberus — who help her channel courage when her own runs out. 
This is an episode about age, ego, and armor. About why purpose isn't a deadline you're failing to hit, and why the wildest costume you'll ever wear might be your actual undefended self.✦ Enter the Lab ✦📚 Browse the research, books, tools + resources: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose🔎 Search the archives: https://www.holomovement.net/awakenyourpurposepodcast🧭 Take the quiz + find your stage: https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz📝 Found your purpose? Add your data + insights: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map
✦ Guest Bio ✦ 
Marina Fini is an installation artist, photographer, filmmaker, and color therapist who describes herself as an alchemist of sacred spaces and a dream builder of new worlds. With nearly 20 years in fashion and film and 16 years designing jewelry, she founded Rainbow Bath House, a color-therapy installation space born in Joshua Tree in 2018 and now based in the Sedona desert, and collaborated on the gift shop installation for Meow Wolf's Omega Mart. Every piece of art and jewelry she makes is handcrafted herself, in small batches, as part of her larger practice of using color and immersive space to activate healing and creative expression.✦ Guest Links ✦ 
Website: https://www.marinafini.com/ Website: https://marinafini.format.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marinafini/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rainbowbathhouse/ 
✦ Interviewed by Zenka Caro ✦ 
Zenka Caro is a systems-builder, filmmaker, and founder of LightNet, the world's first consciousness research data platform — home to the Holomovement Purpose Lab and the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast. 
Her work spans purpose discovery, group coherence, and consciousness research, with projects ranging from the Dream Machine to the Love Army. Her passion and purpose: making the impossible possible.
Zenka Caro: https://www.zenka.org 
✦ Time Codes ✦ 
00:00 We're infinite souls — time doesn't get to define you 
00:49 Welcome to Awaken Your Purpose 
01:00 Meet Marina Fini, immersive experiential artist 
02:37 How would you describe your purpose? 
04:55 The rave at 17 that shifted everything 
06:41 Leaving acting, reclaiming her voice 
10:44 Repressed desire and the return to childlike play 
14:24 The biggest struggle: judgment, and almost quitting 
16:54 Discovering Kriya Yoga 
19:26 Losing the warehouse — and what it taught her 
22:15 Ancestral trauma and showing up with intention 
23:56 Advice for anyone still waiting for courage 
25:56 On becoming a yoga teacher 
27:55 Truth begins with vulnerability 
28:33 Rebuilding the "rainbow pyramid" 
30:08 The Lotus Mudra and the heart mantra Yam 
33:45 What the world looks like when people live their purpose 
36:05 Where to find Marina 
38:11 Closing thoughts
✦ Our Mission ✦ 
Thank you for joining us today. Our goal is to help you gather the courage to identify your passion and live your purpose for the sake of yourself and for the sake of us all.
The Awaken Your Purpose Podcast is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet. Through a multi-year research project and 100+ interviews, we are mapping the patterns, stages, and methods that help people discover and live their purpose.
✦ 🎙️ Listen to the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast ✦ 
🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/awaken-your-purpose/id1746656881
🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1MfzpoYO4V0CvcohVNIhg4

Karl Mullings - Photographer, Storyteller, US Veteran✦ Holomovement Purpose Lab ✦
What if the thing you doubted you were good enough for is exactly what you were made for? 
In this episode of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, host Zenka Caro sits down with Karl Mullings, a professional photographer who has spent 25 years in northern Arizona capturing people at their most real — seniors, athletes, families, and now a project honoring women's stories.
Karl shares his journey from getting in trouble at Catholic school until a box of flash cubes from his mom changed everything to 15 years as a U.S. Marine, a divorce that made him quit photography entirely, and the mentors — including one paid in Happy Meals — who pushed him back into his craft. Along the way: an unexpected call from TLC to shoot Sister Wives, and his growing project to photograph 31 women in 31 days, honoring the mother who believed in him before he believed in himself.
This conversation explores mentorship, legacy, and the quiet discipline of trusting your gift before anyone else does. Karl explains how purpose rarely arrives as a five-year plan — sometimes it's a nun smiling at a photo you handed her, a nervous senior portrait subject finally relaxing, or just saying hello to a fellow veteran on the street. Living your purpose may be less about proving your talent and more about showing up with it, again and again, until you believe it yourself.
 
✦ Enter the Lab ✦
 
📚 Browse the research, books, tools + resources: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose
🔎 Search the archives: https://www.holomovement.net/awakenyourpurposepodcast
🧭 Take the quiz + find your stage: https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz
📝 Found your purpose? Add your data + insights: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map
 
✦ Guest Bio ✦ 
This conversation explores mentorship, legacy, and the quiet discipline of trusting your gift before anyone else does. Karl explains how purpose rarely arrives as a five-year plan — sometimes it's a nun smiling at a photo you handed her, a nervous senior portrait subject finally relaxing, or just saying hello to a fellow veteran on the street. Living your purpose may be less about proving your talent and more about showing up with it, again and again, until you believe it yourself.
 
✦ Guest Links ✦ 
Karl Mullings: https://kfmdesigns.com/ 
✦ Interviewed by Zenka Caro ✦ 
Zenka Caro is a systems-builder, filmmaker, and founder of LightNet, the world's first consciousness research data platform — home to the Holomovement Purpose Lab and the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast. 
Her work spans purpose discovery, group coherence, and consciousness research, with projects ranging from the Dream Machine to the Love Army. Her passion and purpose: making the impossible possible.
Zenka Caro: https://www.zenka.org 
✦ Time Codes ✦ 
00:00 A camera he swore he'd never touch again 
00:46 Welcome to Awaken Your Purpose 
01:05 Meet Karl Mullings 
02:45 Karl's purpose: storytelling 
04:09 The nuns, the flash cubes, and how it started 
05:27 His mom, Coral O'Malley 
07:36 The 31 women, 31 days project 
09:33 Divorce, quitting photography, and Sedona 
11:47 The call from TLC and the Sister Wives shoot 
12:48 Mentors who changed everything 
14:51 Donald Jack and a Happy Meal mentorship 
17:00 The real struggle: valuing your own work 
18:01 What high schoolers taught him 
20:33 A full-circle moment: being asked to teach 
21:07 Advice for anyone who hasn't found their gift 
21:58 A world where everyone lives their purpose 
23:35 Karl's final message: believe in yourself
 
✦ Our Mission ✦ 
Thank you for joining us today. Our goal is to help you gather the courage to identify your passion and live your purpose for the sake of yourself and for the sake of us all.
The Awaken Your Purpose Podcast is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet. Through a multi-year research project and 100+ interviews, we are mapping the patterns, stages, and methods that help people discover and live their purpose.
✦ 🎙️ Listen to the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast ✦ 
🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/awaken-your-purpose/id1746656881
🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1MfzpoYO4V0CvcohVNIhg4
 

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Awaken Your Purpose Podcast — Lori Creevay
 
 
Lori Creevay | Psychic Medium, Conscious Channel, Teacher, and Mentor
What if psychic ability is not rare, strange, or reserved for a chosen few? What if it is one of the most natural things about being human?
In this episode of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, Zenka Caro speaks with Lori Creevay, a comedian turned psychic medium and conscious channel whose life changed after a near-death experience opened the door to spirit guides, channeling, and a lifelong path of intuitive service.
Lori shares how she once made fun of the spiritual world, only to become someone who now teaches psychic development, offers one-on-one mentorship, channels guidance, and helps people reconnect with what she calls the voice of the soul.
✦ HOLOMOVEMENT PURPOSE LAB ✦
🔎 Search the archives:https://www.holomovement.net/purpose
🧭 Take the quiz + find your stage:https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz
📝 Found your purpose? Add your data + insights:https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map
📚 Browse the research, books, tools + resources:https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose
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IN THIS EPISODE
In this conversation, Lori describes the powerful turning point that began after she died, was brought back, and later began hearing and seeing spirit.
One of her first major guides, Chief Great White Eagle, appeared with a wolf or dog beside him and eventually became part of the guidance that taught psychic development through her.
Lori also shares stories of channeling other beings, including Merlin, Pleiadians, Mother Mary, Mary Magdalene, and a whale oversoul.
But the heart of Lori’s message is simple:
Everyone is psychic.
She explains that psychic ability is not a circus trick or something outside of ordinary life. It is a guidance system, a roadmap, and a natural human capacity that many people are already using without realizing it.
This episode explores:
Near-death experience
Conscious channeling
Spirit guides
Psychic development
Medical intuition
Sobriety
Soul purpose
Free will
Indigenous wisdom
Intuition and synchronicity
Living from your true north
Discovering what you were made for
Lori reminds us that the door to purpose often opens through stillness, practice, courage, and the willingness to ask:
What was I made for?
✦ ABOUT LORI CREEVAY ✦
Lori Creevy is a psychic medium, conscious channel, teacher, mentor, and intuitive guide.
After a near-death experience, Lori began experiencing spirit communication and later trained deeply in mediumship and channeling.
For nearly 30 years, she has offered readings, mentorship, psychic development classes, channeling sessions, and soul path guidance to help people reconnect with their intuition, purpose, and true self.
✦ GUEST LINKS ✦
🌐 Website:https://www.theilluminedhuman.org/
✦ INTERVIEWER & HOST ✦
Zenka Caro is the founder of LightNet and the Holomovement Purpose Lab. Her work explores how people move from uncertainty into purpose, courage, creative expression, and meaningful action.
🌐 LightNet:https://www.lightnet.org/
✦ TIME CODES ✦
00:00 Everyone is born with psychic ability01:04 Meet Lori Creevy01:28 Comedian turned psychic02:25 Lori’s near-death experience03:13 The spirit guide in the hallway04:07 Chief Great White Eagle04:33 Studying with a trance medium05:25 Becoming a conscious channel06:36 Everyone has psychic ability07:41 Hearing guides while channeling08:00 The whale oversoul10:23 Psychic ability as the voice of the soul12:42 Born for this work13:35 Medical intuition and readings14:54 Helping a client understand her son15:44 Training in mediumship16:08 Merlin, remote viewing, and spirit teachers17:02 Helping people find their true north17:29 Ascension as anchoring the soul19:00 Early prophetic dreams20:31 The dream that came true21:08 Death as a doorway to gifts22:01 Cracking open the psychic door23:14 Practice, meditation, and stillness25:45 The God self as the gateway27:31 Finding meaning and your tribe28:26 Purpose bends probabilities31:02 Meaning and synchronicity36:00 Advice for people who do not know why they are here40:10 How ego can hijack spirituality44:36 Saying no to a smaller life49:19 Psychic sense as natural as breathing50:27 The Kogi and uncorrupted presence52:11 A world living from purpose55:08 Raising children with intuitive gifts59:43 Closing reflection
✦ CONNECT & SUPPORT ✦
Thank you for joining us today.
Our goal is to help you gather the courage to identify your passion and live your purpose for the sake of yourself and for the sake of us all.
The Awaken Your Purpose Podcast is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet.
Through a multi-year research project and more than 100 interviews, we are mapping the patterns and methods that help people discover and live their purpose.
🎙️ Listen to the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast:
🍎 Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/awaken-your-purpose/id1746656881
🎧 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1MfzpoYO4V0CvcohVNIhg4
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Jackie Lapin | Founder of Conscious Media Relations and The Historic Traveler
What if purpose is not one fixed destination, but an evolution?
In this episode of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, Sharon Clark speaks with Jackie Lapin, founder of The Conscious Companies, including Conscious Media Relations, and founder and Historic-Traveler-in-Chief of The Historic Traveler.
Jackie shares how her life’s work has unfolded through many chapters: sports writing, public relations, conscious creation, podcast tours, mentorship, history, travel, and service.
Her guiding phrase: follow God’s breadcrumbs.
✦ Holomovement Purpose Lab ✦🔎 Search the archives: https://www.holomovement.net/purpose🧭 Take the quiz + find your stage: https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz📝 Found your purpose? Add your data + insights: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map📚 Browse the research, books, tools + resources: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose
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Jackie knew at age eleven that she wanted to be a sports writer, long before women were widely accepted in that field. She went on to become one of the nation’s first women sportswriters before building a highly successful media relations career with a world-class client list.
Over the last 18 years, Jackie’s Conscious Media Relations Radio/Podcast Tours have helped nearly 400 luminaries, leaders, filmmakers, and authors grow their businesses, sell more books, create viewership, and reach thousands of radio shows and podcasts.
In this conversation, Jackie reflects on purpose as something that changes shape across a lifetime. The deeper thread remains, but the container evolves.
She talks about writing as her core gift, service as the through-line of her work, the role of divine guidance, and how she has learned to recognize when the universe is redirecting her.
When something becomes too forced, too blocked, or too heavy, Jackie sees that as a signal to step back and ask: where is the energy pointing me now?
This episode is about purpose, prosperity, service, conscious creation, divine redirection, and learning to follow the path that keeps unfolding.
✦ About Jackie Lapin ✦Jackie Lapin is the founder of The Conscious Companies, including Conscious Media Relations. She is a world leader in educating, mentoring, and coaching people on Practical Conscious Creation.
Jackie has succeeded at the highest levels of multiple careers. She was one of the nation’s first women sportswriters and later became a nationally recognized media relations expert with a world-class client list for more than 30 years.
In addition to Conscious Media Relations, Jackie is the founder and Historic-Traveler-in-Chief at The Historic Traveler, a media outlet, magazine, and free membership community for people who love history, travel, and historic novels.
✦ Guest Links ✦🌐 Conscious Media Relations: http://www.consciousmediarelations.com/🌐 The Historic Traveler: http://www.thehistorictraveler.com/
✦ Interviewer ✦Sharon Clark is a LightNet and Holomovement Purpose Lab collaborator. Her purpose is to guide people during cancer experiences to regain clarity, see possibility, and reclaim their power.
🌐 Sharon Clark: https://www.yourtransformationcoach.ca/
✦ Time Codes ✦00:00 Meet Jackie Lapin01:19 What did Jackie discover her purpose to be?01:26 Purpose as an evolution01:35 Following God’s breadcrumbs01:57 Becoming a sports writer02:21 Writing as the thread through every chapter02:36 Moving into public relations03:02 Podcast tours and conscious media03:19 Serving herself and having fun03:37 The Historic Traveler04:14 Purpose changes containers over time04:44 When Jackie knew she was on the path05:25 Listening to divine guidance06:16 Manifestation and changing professions07:38 Support from family and teachers08:46 Biggest challenge in living her purpose09:00 When revenue does not flow easily09:37 Universal redirection10:33 Listening to inner guidance11:31 Advice for finding your purpose12:35 Why you have to follow your heart13:01 The impact of living her purpose13:28 Carrying others in your comet trail15:51 What if more people lived their purpose?16:45 Closing reflections
✦ Connect & Support ✦
Thank you for joining us today. Our goal is to help you gather the courage to identify your passion and live your purpose for the sake of yourself and for the sake of us all.
The Awaken Your Purpose Podcast is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet. Through a multi-year research project and more than 100 interviews, we are mapping the patterns and methods that help people discover and live their purpose.
🎙️ Listen to the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast:🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/awaken-your-purpose/id1746656881🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1MfzpoYO4V0CvcohVNIhg4

The Quantum Energy Device That Changes Everything - Hunter Bjork
What if clean energy could be always on, decentralized, scalable, quiet, fuel-free, and available where people actually need it?
In this episode of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, Zenka Caro speaks with Hunter Bjork, founder, CEO, and chairman of ISA Energy, about the quantum energy technology his team has spent nearly a decade developing.
Hunter shares the story behind ISA, the purpose that carried him through ten years of experimentation, and the moment a business coach asked him a question he could not answer:
Can you tell me what your life’s purpose is in one sentence and make me believe it?
That question eventually led Hunter to define his purpose as helping secure humanity’s best probable future. From there, energy became the lever.
✦ Holomovement Purpose Lab ✦🔎 Search the archives: https://www.holomovement.net/purpose🧭 Take the quiz + find your stage: https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz📝 Found your purpose? Add your data + insights: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map📚 Browse the research, books, tools + resources: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose
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In this conversation, Hunter explains how ISA began with a blank sheet of paper and a simple question: What would an ideal energy source actually need to do?
The answer: be always on, decentralized, scalable, affordable, clean, and built from materials that can actually be manufactured.
Hunter describes ISA’s work with electromagnetic fields, toroidal fields, magnetic reactions, the quantum field, and the possibility of generating usable electrical power from energy that exists around us but is not normally visible or easy to measure.
He also shares how the company moved from stealth mode into public education after years of experiments, trial and error, blown circuits, independent validation, patents, and the long process of turning frontier physics into a usable product.
This episode is about energy technology, purpose as fuel, why purpose is stronger than passion or motivation, and why the things once called impossible may simply be waiting for the people willing to stay with them long enough.
✦ About Hunter Bjork ✦Hunter Bjork is the founder, CEO, and chairman of ISA Energy, PBC. ISA was founded in 2016 with a mission to develop technologies that help secure humanity’s best probable future.
Through ISA, Hunter and his team are working to commercialize energy technology designed for homes, communities, municipalities, and larger infrastructure.
✦ Guest Links ✦🌐 ISA Energy: https://www.isaenergy.com
✦ Interviewer & Host ✦Zenka Caro is the founder of LightNet and the Holomovement Purpose Lab.
🌐 LightNet: https://www.lightnet.org/
✦ Time Codes ✦00:00 A business meeting in a graveyard00:13 The question that changed Hunter’s life01:02 Founding ISA to solve the world energy problem01:21 Building a quantum energy system02:05 Awaken Your Purpose introduction02:42 Meet Hunter Bjork and ISA Energy04:38 Coming out of stealth mode06:23 The mentor who asked the real question07:45 Can you say your purpose in one sentence?08:32 Securing humanity’s best probable future09:23 Why energy became the mission11:19 Starting with a blank sheet of paper12:25 Why clean energy has been hard to scale13:14 Inverting the energy equation14:03 What the ideal energy source would need16:00 The quantum field and dark energy17:25 Ten years of trial and error17:39 Harnessing energy at the quantum level18:34 A generator without fuel, noise, or moving parts19:24 Energy independence in a box20:13 Homes, communities, and data centers22:54 What is the quantum field?24:46 The missing energy of the universe26:25 Dimensions as “buckets” of space27:49 Toroidal fields and magnetic reactions28:12 A “desktop black hole” magnetic analogy32:19 The deathbed exercise for finding purpose34:37 Why purpose beats passion and motivation37:25 It is okay not to know your purpose yet37:48 True success is progress on purpose39:33 Building on the frontier41:54 Why education is part of the mission44:04 Shedding limiting beliefs46:35 The ripple effect of doing the impossible49:44 What if more people lived their purpose?54:15 Hunter’s final message55:33 Purpose Lab closing reflection
✦ Connect & Support ✦
Thank you for joining us today. Our goal is to help you gather the courage to identify your passion and live your purpose for the sake of yourself and for the sake of us all.
The Awaken Your Purpose Podcast is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet. Through a multi-year research project and more than 100 interviews, we are mapping the patterns and methods that help people discover and live their purpose.
🎙️ Listen to the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast:🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/awaken-your-purpose/id1746656881🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1MfzpoYO4V0CvcohVNIhg4

Jason Sander | Land Steward, Community Architect, Educator, and Founder of Project Nomad
What if your why could change the room?
In this episode of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, Zenka Caro speaks with Jason Sander, a teacher, land steward, community architect, and new Sedona resident whose work focuses on creating spaces where people feel safe, present, connected, and free to make mistakes.
Jason shares how his early years as a teacher helped him understand that purpose is not only about what we do. It is about why we do it. Whether in a classroom, a café, a campground, a community project, or a conversation, Jason believes the intention behind the space changes what becomes possible inside it.
✦ Holomovement Purpose Lab ✦🔎 Search the archives: https://www.holomovement.net/purpose🧭 Take the quiz + find your stage: https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz📝 Found your purpose? Add your data + insights: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map📚 Browse the research, books, tools + resources: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose
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In this conversation, Jason explores purpose-driven doing, the power of asking “why,” and why we should not get stuck building the final outcome before taking the natural next step.
He shares lessons from teaching, experiential learning, land stewardship, hospitality, and his former project Nomad Cafe and Campground in Kanab, Utah. For Jason, spaces are never just spaces. They are conditions for presence, connection, learning, healing, and community.
Jason also speaks about Project Nomad, his emerging work in Sedona to connect people already doing good work, build community from the bottom up, and create conscious events rooted in collaboration rather than competition.
This episode is about purpose, presence, community, safe spaces, land stewardship, collaboration, and the simple but radical practice of knowing why you are in the room.
✦ About Jason Sander ✦Jason Sander is a land steward, community architect, educator, and founder of Project Nomad. His work focuses on cultivating spaces where people feel seen, heard, safe, and present enough to connect.
Through education, hospitality, land-based projects, and community building, Jason helps create environments where people can share their gifts, collaborate, and bring more life into the room.
✦ Guest Links ✦Project Nomad links coming soon.
✦ Interviewer & Host ✦Zenka Caro is the founder of LightNet and the Holomovement Purpose Lab. Her work explores how people move from uncertainty into purpose, courage, creative expression, and meaningful action.
🌐 LightNet: https://www.lightnet.org/
✦ Time Codes ✦00:00 Why are you doing it?00:38 Awaken Your Purpose introduction01:11 Meet Jason Sander01:28 Purpose as creating spaces for change02:48 Safe spaces where learning can happen04:17 Asking students, “Why are you here?”05:23 Intrinsic purpose vs. someone else’s why07:01 Build the next step, not the final outcome08:16 Everything you need is already here08:51 Don’t get stuck on the couch10:15 Purpose as embodied knowing10:47 Jason’s mission statement11:50 The challenge of staying connected to purpose13:57 What we leave in people14:50 Purpose gives direction, action gives it form15:27 What it means to be a nomad16:20 Purpose-driven spaces create connection17:21 Why coffee tastes better on vacation18:07 Creating presence through place18:41 Cultivating conditions for growth20:15 A world where people live their purpose21:22 Purpose as a light in the chest22:12 Make every conversation an invitation23:33 Peace as a baseline24:09 When peace is now, not later26:17 Project Nomad and conscious community27:22 Building networks from the bottom up28:01 Purpose Lab closing reflection
✦ Connect & Support ✦
Thank you for joining us today. Our goal is to help you gather the courage to identify your passion and live your purpose for the sake of yourself and for the sake of us all.
The Awaken Your Purpose Podcast is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet. Through a multi-year research project and more than 100 interviews, we are mapping the patterns, stages, and methods that help people discover and live their purpose.
🎙️ Listen to the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast:🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/awaken-your-purpose/id1746656881🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1MfzpoYO4V0CvcohVNIhg4

Frank White | Author of The Overview Effect and Space Philosopher
What if we stopped seeing ourselves as passengers—and remembered that we are all crew members of Spaceship Earth?
Frank White coined the term “the Overview Effect” to describe the profound shift in awareness astronauts often experience when they see Earth from space: one interconnected living system without visible borders or boundaries.
In this episode, interviewed by Yasmine El Baggari, Frank shares the moment that inspired his groundbreaking work, what he learned from interviewing astronauts, and why it took decades for his vision to reach a worldwide audience.
Together, they explore purpose, persistence, borders, environmental responsibility, space travel, and the expanded perspective humanity may need to address our greatest challenges. Frank also shares the movement to send him to space—and why living your purpose may inspire others to discover their own.
We are not passengers on this planet. We are crew members—and every crew member has a role.
EXPLORE YOUR PURPOSE
Explore the Purpose Lab:https://www.ourlightnet.org/purpose
Take the Purpose Quiz:https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz
Explore our living research:https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map
ABOUT FRANK WHITE
Frank White is an author and space philosopher whose landmark book, The Overview Effect: Space Exploration and Human Evolution, introduced the term “Overview Effect” in 1987. He has authored or coauthored numerous books exploring space, climate change, artificial intelligence, and humanity’s future. His work inspired the short film Overview and has helped bring astronauts’ experiences of Earth as one interconnected system to millions of people.
CONNECT WITH FRANK
Website:https://frankwhiteauthor.com/
LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankwhitetoe
Instagram:@frankwhite161
ABOUT THE INTERVIEWER
Yasmine El Baggari is the Moroccan-born founder and CEO of Voyaj, a global platform created to foster understanding and peace through meaningful one-on-one exchanges. After traveling to more than 40 countries, visiting all 50 U.S. states, and being welcomed into more than 200 homes, she made it her mission to bring greater openness, curiosity, and empathy into the world.
CONNECT WITH YASMINE
Website:https://www.voyaj.com/
Instagram:@yelbaggari
Facebook:@yasmineelbaggari
TIME CODES
00:00 — The Overview Effect and Spaceship Earth02:26 — Yasmine welcomes Frank White04:02 — Frank’s search for purpose05:14 — The flight that sparked the Overview Effect07:17 — Interviewing astronauts10:23 — When purpose does not unfold as planned13:09 — Apollo 8, Earthrise, and paying attention15:11 — Surface thinking, borders, and barriers17:21 — The people who supported Frank’s vision19:26 — What astronauts want humanity to understand22:04 — Why explore space when Earth needs help?29:07 — The encouragement that kept Frank going32:19 — How the Overview Effect finally reached millions34:03 — Faith, doubt, and the greatest challenge of purpose36:10 — The campaign to send Frank White to space41:27 — Balloons, rockets, and different paths to the Overview Effect45:17 — What happens when someone lives their purpose?47:28 — What if everyone knew their purpose?48:57 — We are all crew members of Spaceship Earth
CONNECT & SUPPORT
Subscribe, like, and share this episode with someone ready to see the world—and their purpose—from a new perspective.
Awaken Your Purpose is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet, built from multi-year research and more than 100 conversations with people living and breathing their purpose.
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Sara Roccisano | Author, Speaker, World Traveler, and Founder of Embolden Adventures
Sara left a 20+ year career in Wall Street and corporate America to follow a path of purpose, courage, travel, writing, and spiritual awakening.
In this episode of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, Sharon Clark speaks with Sara Roccisano about the moment a breaking point in her Manhattan apartment became the beginning of an entirely new life.
Without a perfect plan, Sara sold her apartment, walked away from the career that looked impressive on paper, and began writing the book that would become part of her larger Embolden Adventures series.
✦ Holomovement Purpose Lab ✦
Search the archives:https://www.holomovement.net/purpose
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Browse the research, books, tools + resources:https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose
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In this conversation, Sara speaks about burnout, surrender, leaving New York City, returning to nature, and learning to stop asking the outside world for permission.
Her work through Embolden Adventures is for the seeker who knows something has to change and is ready to rise after the breakdown. Sara’s upcoming book, Stone Temple Passport: Awake and Radiate with Mama Ayahuasca, begins a larger series exploring surrender, adventure, healing, and personal awakening.
At the heart of this episode is a simple but fierce message: you have to want your life back. No one else can choose it for you.
Sara talks about listening to the inner voice, trusting higher power, working with plant medicine, grounding in nature, and learning to see life as a hero’s journey. She also shares why living your purpose can ripple outward simply by standing in your truth.
This episode is about courage, self-trust, travel, surrender, spiritual awakening, and choosing yourself before life forces the choice for you.
✦ About Sara Roccisano ✦
Sara Roccisano is an author, speaker, world traveler, and founder of Embolden Adventures, a platform created to encourage personal, professional, and spiritual growth through story, adventure, and courageous self-discovery.
After more than two decades in Wall Street and corporate America, Sara walked away from the life that no longer fit and began writing, traveling, healing, and helping others take the bet on themselves.
✦ Guest Links ✦
New Book: https://emboldenadventures.com/bookWebsite:https://www.emboldenadventures.com
Instagram:https://instagram.com/EmboldenAdventures
Sara Roccisano:https://sararoccisano.com
✦ Interviewer ✦
Sharon Clark is a cancer life coach, purpose guide, and LightNet contributor devoted to helping people navigate life’s threshold moments with courage, clarity, and heart.
Sharon Clark:https://www.yourtransformationcoach.ca/
✦ Time Codes ✦
00:00 Purpose is discovered over time01:13 Meet Sharon Clark and Sara Roccisano02:15 Sara’s purpose as a way shower and world traveler03:20 Life is lived forward, understood backward03:57 The 2022 breaking point in Manhattan04:18 Quitting without a plan05:17 Discovering herself through letting go06:10 Leaving Wall Street and corporate pressure07:34 Family support and coming home08:08 Walking a spiritual path others may not understand09:27 The boiling point from 2020 to 202210:43 Work stress, heartbreak, shutdowns, and city noise11:29 The conference call that broke the camel’s back12:38 “I quit. I’m choosing me.”13:59 Stop seeking outside permission14:47 Following the calling against the grain15:32 The challenge of surrender and trust16:17 Meeting her higher power17:05 Higher power with binoculars and a walkie-talkie18:23 Nature, plant medicine, and subtle guidance20:01 You have to want your purpose21:17 Holding your light22:59 A world where people stop wearing masks24:00 Purpose Lab closing reflection
✦ Connect & Support ✦
Thank you for joining us today. Our goal is to help you gather the courage to identify your passion and live your purpose for the sake of yourself and for the sake of us all.
The Awaken Your Purpose Podcast is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet. Through a multi-year research project and more than 100 interviews, we are mapping the patterns, stages, and methods that help people discover and live their purpose.
Listen to the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast:
Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/awaken-your-purpose/id1746656881
Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1MfzpoYO4V0CvcohVNIhg4

Jerome Martin | Metaphysical Practitioner, and Founder of Light Body Bootcamp, ET Contactee
What if the light body is not a metaphor, but a real part of who we are?
In this episode of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, Sharon Clark speaks with Jerome Martin III, an ET contactee, metaphysical practitioner, and founder of Light Body Bootcamp.
Jerome shares how a series of extraterrestrial contact experiences changed the direction of his life, taking him from construction work into the development of a training system for consciousness. Through these experiences, Jerome says he learned practical methods for strengthening the light body, deepening higher self connection, cultivating intuitive abilities, and helping others access expanded states of awareness.
✦ Holomovement Purpose Lab ✦🔎 Search the archives: https://www.holomovement.net/purpose🧭 Take the quiz + find your stage: https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz📝 Found your purpose? Add your data + insights: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map📚 Browse the research, books, tools + resources: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose
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In this conversation, Jerome describes early contact experiences, including seeing blue silhouettes of light, traveling through a tube of light, and later understanding these encounters as training in light body development, telepathic communication, and higher-dimensional awareness.
He also shares how his purpose unfolded in phases. What began as one-on-one training became Light Body Bootcamp, a community and system designed to help people strengthen their light body, connect with their higher self, and activate intuitive faculties that Jerome believes are already built into human nature.
Jerome also discusses altered states of consciousness, brainwave shifts, ET contact, psychic abilities, the body as a doorway, and the difference between intuition and higher self guidance. His central message is that humans are more capable than we have been taught to believe.
This episode is about consciousness training, spiritual evolution, purpose, contact, inner guidance, and learning to trust the abilities that may have been waiting inside you all along.
✦ About Jerome Martin ✦Jerome Martin is an ET contactee, metaphysical practitioner, and founder of Light Body Bootcamp. Through classes, workshops, and online training, he guides people through practical methods for strengthening the light body, deepening higher self connection, cultivating intuitive abilities, and supporting conscious evolution.
His work explores the light body as a real energetic faculty, not a symbol, and offers practices for accessing altered states, building intuitive capacity, and connecting with higher levels of consciousness.
✦ Guest Links ✦🌐 Light Body Blueprint: https://lightbodyblueprint.com
✦ Interviewer ✦Sharon Clark is a cancer life coach, purpose guide, and LightNet contributor devoted to helping people navigate life’s threshold moments with courage, clarity, and heart.
🌐 Sharon Clark: https://www.yourtransformationcoach.ca/
✦ Time Codes ✦00:00 The light body as applied metaphysical science00:41 Awaken Your Purpose Podcast introduction01:01 Meet Sharon Clark and Jerome Martin01:54 Jerome’s purpose: developing the light body02:35 ET contact and the beginning of his training03:38 Five blue beings and the tube of light04:28 Learning telepathic communication05:15 Early contact experiences05:50 Missing time in New Mexico06:50 A UFO tour in Sedona08:08 The moment that could not be explained away09:09 From dream state to conscious contact10:15 The mission to help humanity awaken11:02 Disclosure happening one person at a time12:16 Applied metaphysical science12:36 Humans are built with these abilities13:22 How family reacted to Jerome’s new path13:55 From construction work to an online business15:32 Discovery Channel and brainwave testing17:18 EEG testing during contact20:13 Brainwaves, theta, and altered states21:58 Learning to access psychic abilities on command23:16 Why television is called programming24:12 Humans are psychic by nature25:24 Trusting his guides when others doubted him27:16 Fear, curiosity, and contact through the heart28:16 Challenges of living his purpose29:04 Navigating life after contact30:12 Human emotions and grounding the experience31:13 Why spiritual gifts do not bypass being human31:56 Humans as a bridge between realms33:45 Helping others bring abilities online35:18 Abilities as tools for purpose35:36 Trust your gut and connect to your higher self36:51 Your higher self is the compass37:43 Stop relying only on external programming38:32 A world with more purpose, love, and unity39:57 Purpose Lab closing reflection
✦ Connect & Support ✦
Thank you for joining us today. Our goal is to help you gather the courage to identify your passion and live your purpose for the sake of yourself and for the sake of us all.
The Awaken Your Purpose Podcast is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet. Through a multi-year research project and more than 100 interviews, we are mapping the patterns, stages, and methods that help people discover and live their purpose.
🎙️ Listen to the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast:🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/awaken-your-purpose/id1746656881🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1MfzpoYO4V0CvcohVNIhg4

Gisele Bonenfant | Healer, Archivist, and Keeper of the Patrick Flanagan Library
What if the future has already been invented, but is sitting quietly in boxes, books, and forgotten archives?
In this episode of the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast, Zenka Caro speaks with Gisele Bonenfant, a Sedona-based practitioner, archivist, and guardian of the Patrick Flanagan Library.
Gisele shares her extraordinary journey from working in a Boston law firm to becoming the caretaker of rare books, future-facing scientific ideas, and a powerful Vogel crystal photonic healing technology known as the Crystal Photonic Triangulation Unit. Her story is a living breadcrumb trail of intuition, humor, service, and saying yes when every cell in the body lights up.
✦ Holomovement Purpose Lab ✦🔎 Search the archives: https://www.holomovement.net/purpose🧭 Take the quiz + find your stage: https://www.lightnet.org/purpose/quiz📝 Found your purpose? Add your data + insights: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose?view=my-map📚 Browse the research, books, tools + resources: https://www.lightnet.org/labs/purpose
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In this conversation, Gisele speaks about her role as archivist for the Patrick Flanagan Library, a collection connected to the life and work of inventor, scientist, and futurist Patrick Flanagan. She describes the library as a kind of vortex where researchers, inventors, and seekers encounter ideas that may have been decades ahead of their time.
She also shares her vision for preserving and expanding access to these materials, including the dream of scanning rare books and documents so that the knowledge does not remain hidden in Sedona, but can reach people around the world.
Gisele also introduces the Crystal Laser Bed, a rare Vogel crystal photonic triangulation unit that works with crystal, color, light, and sound. She describes it as a 21st-century version of ancient healing technologies that once used crystalline caves, sunlight, moonlight, minerals, and sound for restoration and alignment.
At the heart of this episode is a deeper question: How do we know when something is truly ours to follow?
For Gisele, the answer lives in the body. When the cells light up, when the heart knows, when the inner GPS says yes even before the mind understands, that is the breadcrumb.
This episode is about future science, sacred archives, the body’s intelligence, Patrick Flanagan, Sedona, humor, courage, and the strange beauty of following the path that makes no logical sense until it becomes your life.
✦ About Gisele Bonenfant ✦Gisele Bonenfant is a Sedona-based archivist, practitioner, and caretaker of the Patrick Flanagan Library. A lifelong lover of books and research, she began by cataloging thousands of Patrick Flanagan’s books and helped bring the library into public form so the knowledge could be shared rather than returned to boxes.
She is also a practitioner of the Crystal Laser Bed, a rare Vogel crystal photonic technology that works with crystal, color, light, sound, intuition, and the body’s subtle intelligence. Her work lives at the meeting point of spirituality, science, humor, energetic healing, and the preservation of knowledge that may help shape the future.
✦ Guest Links ✦🌐 Patrick Flanagan Library: https://patrickflanaganlibrary.com💎 Crystal Laser Bed: crystallaserbed@gmail.com
✦ Interviewer & Host ✦Zenka Caro is the founder of LightNet and the Holomovement Purpose Lab. Her work explores how people move from uncertainty into purpose, courage, creative expression, and meaningful action.
🌐 LightNet: https://www.lightnet.org/
✦ Time Codes ✦00:00 When every cell says yes00:25 Awaken Your Purpose Podcast introduction00:44 Meet Gisele Bonenfant01:21 Sedona, consciousness researchers, and future science01:56 The Vogel crystal photonic triangulation unit02:33 The Patrick Flanagan Library and why it matters03:07 Welcome to the conversation04:11 Becoming the archivist of Patrick Flanagan’s books05:21 From book inventory to public library06:10 Why old books may hold future breakthroughs07:43 The dream of scanning and sharing the archive08:17 Rebuilding the Library of Alexandria, bit by bit09:51 Sedona’s private libraries and hidden knowledge10:52 Gisele’s work with scientists, spirituality, and technology11:53 Gisele’s purpose as humor, light, and service13:19 What the Crystal Laser Bed is14:16 Marcel Vogel, crystals, and sacred geometry15:06 How the bed works with light, color, and crystal16:02 Crystal, sound, and ancient healing technologies17:25 Being surrounded by brilliant minds18:20 Why true Vogel crystals are so rare19:10 How the Crystal Laser Bed came into Gisele’s life22:17 When every cell in the body says yes24:35 Fear, cellular memory, and learning to trust the bed25:57 Shamanic training and following the next breadcrumb27:26 Leaving the law firm and entering the unknown29:15 The body’s yes and the challenge that follows30:40 Who Patrick Flanagan was33:09 The Neurophone, brain coherence, and learning35:00 Pyramid Power, water, and future science38:30 The courage to live your purpose39:04 Why the path can feel lonely40:45 Finding the other misfit toys43:15 Advice for listening to your inner GPS45:50 The body, the heart, and deeper knowing47:01 Creating from the heart instead of the head49:44 The impact of living authentically52:58 “Nowhere” as “now here”53:36 Make-believe as a creative force55:35 What the world would look like if more people lived their purpose57:35 Follow the breadcrumbs and focus on the good59:52 How to find Gisele and the Patrick Flanagan Library01:00:47 Closing reflections01:01:20 Purpose Lab closing reflection
✦ Connect & Support ✦
Thank you for joining us today. Our goal is to help you gather the courage to identify your passion and live your purpose for the sake of yourself and for the sake of us all.
The Awaken Your Purpose Podcast is a collaboration between Holomovement and LightNet. Through a multi-year research project and more than 100 interviews, we are mapping the patterns, stages, and methods that help people discover and live their purpose.
🎙️ Listen to the Awaken Your Purpose Podcast:🍎 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/awaken-your-purpose/id1746656881🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1MfzpoYO4V0CvcohVNIhg4